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the fiscal cliff and make sure that american families aren't faced with possible larger tax bills come january. >> wouldn't it just make you feel better if you didn't feel the real reason we'll get a fiscal cliff resolution, whether it's a little tinkering or something bigger, wasn't because they actually wanted to be home on christmas? >> i think that they absolutely should try to get this done. i certainly don't think they should go home before the situation is resolved. but i also think that when you are looking at what kind of congress we want, we want a responsive congress. we want a congress rooted in american communities, not inside the beltway. >> look, you just want mondays and fridays off, too, and your trying to make the argument to the national review as to why that is better. >> americans want their leaders to work, period. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. of course, we want all your feedback. >>> next, the billionaire software tycoon john mcafee is wanted in the questioning of the death of his neighbor. martin savidge just literally caught him. he was running,
're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an incredibly popular position. it's important for republicans to know that the white house is not going to accept any kind of a deal. that's the point he was trying to make. i think all the leverage now is with the democrats, with the president. the american public is on his side. i think it's important for the republicans not to think that they can just get any kind of deal out of him because if they do go over the cliff, there is a solution. the very next day, the house can simply pass a bill, giving tax relief to 98% of americans and we go on. >> but the house is controlled by republicans. >> and it would be the republicans fault
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hospital is with us. give me your concerns or feelings as we approach this fiscal cliff. do you think we'll get a deal done, or are you anticipating we go over the cliff? >> we're americans. we have to get a deal done. this is really important, and it's important for health care. at some point in time, we're going to have to come to grips with the fact there's got to be revenue. you have to have some rate increases, in my opinion. charitable deductions are a non-starter for us. that's a big issue. universities, hospitals, we depend on charity and charitable donations. >> let's stop right there because i want to take one part at a time. the charitable deductions, this is one of those deductions within the tax code that's being debated. that and as well the mortgage deduction. you think that if that incentive to give money away, that incentive to help hospitals, health care, you think people will give less? >> i know that. there's no question in my mind. >> why? >> because people do not want to feel that they're giving and then that deduction is limited. i've had discussions with many of o
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was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who
that a lot of ordinary americans have been put on notice, as we approach that fiscal cliff, just 27 days away. people who are already having trouble finding a job are receiving a letter of warning about something to happen to them if congress can't make a deal. and abc's jonathan karl has that. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check, her lifeline. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills, and, i mean, you know, as for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she's not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people who've been out of work for more than 26 weeks. many of the unemployed started receiving the news this week from pre-recorded phone calls, like this one in washington state. >> emergency unemployment compensation shuts off at the end
the american economy and the american people through the fiasco of going over the fiscal cliff. as i told the president a couple of weeks ago, there are in a glut of things i have wanted a detriment of, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. if we're going to talk above the debt limit, there will be depressed as a seated with it. i continue to believe any increase until the debt limit meats are exceeded. >> could after an in. we have just had a meeting with the secretariat of the treasury. it was a very productive meeting. this does not have to be a cliffhanger. it has already passed the senate. democrats are prepared to vote for it. we urge our republican colleagues and the house. let's give a christmas present to the republican people. this confidence that will give them as consumers will give confidence to the markets as well. the president has been clear, and we support him on holding firm to the expiration of tax cuts making 200 to dozen dollars a year. that would be part of a package. we have already voted for cut. revenues are needed and a job creation is needed i
between them. >> resa sayah, thank you very much. >>> up next, fiscal cliff futility. in 28 days, crippling tax hikes and spending cuts become a painful reality for every american if a deal does not get done. republicans are offering up a counter proposal to what the president offered a counter proposal that calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings. it includes $800 billion in tax reforms, 600 billion in medicare reforms and 600 billion in spending cuts. because it doesn't contain tax hikes for the wealthiest americans or specifics about which loopholes will be eliminated, the president immediately rejected the republican proposal. want to know how far apart democrats and republicans are? listen to this. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's clear to me they made a political calculation. if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess wha
that they're serious on negotiations. >> reporter: as the country fast approaches the fiscal cliff, the two sides are talking past each other. democrats say they've laid down their marker, hiking tax rates on wealthier americans. and it's up to republicans to propose specific spending cuts they want to entitlement programs. however, republicans say they've offered a concession, putting revenue on the table. and they say it's now up to the president and his fellow democrats to feel some pain and proposed cuts in medicare and medicaid. confusing? we asked harry reid. >> where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain. so you should ask him, okay? >> from capitol hill to the white house, democrats are standing firm, saying the major hurdle remains whether to raise tax rates. what's next? where do things go? the top republican aide tells me they look forward to talking to the white house. >> time is still running out, too. >> and quickly. >> with us now are ryan lizza, the new yorker magazine's washington correspondent and cnn's senior political analyst ron bram's team. thank you both
fiscal cliff. >> republicans call it an insulting joke. >> the biggest stumbling block remains, new taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> that's what the president suggested. >>> ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal -- cliff! >> lottery officials will introduce the holder of one of the two winning jackpot tickets today. >> i'm very happy for him. he has worked very hard in his life and won't have to any more. >> the other big winner in arizona remains a mystery. >> the ticket holder may be all the way across this country in maryland. surveillance video shows a man who purportedly just found out that he wan on. >> now asking that person to come forward, show his ticket and bring your papers. >> lindsay lohan went to jail just to stay dry. >> whipped out his membership card. >> beau obama, inspecting the white house christmas decorations. >>> are you kidding me? >> never has drew brees thrown foiv interceptions and atlanta will survive. >>> an act of kindness by a new york cop going viral. tourist taking this photo of police officer larry deprimo giving boots to a homeless man. >> absolut
. it is hypocritical. turning to other offensive things the fiscal cliff which is beginning to be the crashing balls in politics. you are three bright americans involved in politics. you find this almost laughable that year in and year out that washington doesn't get deals done. you are thinking what is wrong with american politicians? why can't they get around the table and negotiate properly? >> nobody cares about the future of america. here we have america urging the israe israelis to negotiate except us in washington. our parties are so extreme. >> i think the moral is set so low right now on both sides. the country is so divided. we are the one that is are going to be handed down the $16 trillion deficit. it is hard for this to play out. they will come to some sort of a deal. you are going to see them come to a deal. you are going to see them with something sort of like the simpson bowles. >> pam has sent it to the public. that if it goes over the fiscal cliff republicans are prepared to make the middle class pay more tax paying more. and that is a very bad position for the republicans to find
of agreement on the fiscal cliff. look at this abc news/washington post survey that says 60% of americans support raising taxes on the wealthy. 37% oppose it. what about reducing deductions? 44% support it. 49% oppose it. americans, much like lawmakers, want a solution to the problem but clearly divided on how to get there. >> the consensus is there to solve it. the question is how. president obama is meeting with mitt romney today. >> big news. >> do you have any idea what they plan to discuss? >> they are having lunch at the white house this afternoon. the president talked about this after his re-election. he said he wanted to sit down with mitt romney, talk about ways to move the country forward. but the president pointed out mitt romney did a good job turning the olympics around. he thought it could work in the government. streamline agencies to make it more user-friendly. the president will talk with him about that. the president pointed out that out there on the call pain trail mitt romney had good things to say about job creation, turning the economy around. they will discuss those
the republican counteroffer, the proposal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. it is a $2.2 trillion offer that does not raise the tax rate on the wealthiest americans and that has become the central issue of the negotiations. the white house says republicans still are not ready to get serious. susan mcginnis is in washington with the back and forth details. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. gop leaders here on capitol hill sent their plan to the white house in this letter on monday, and now that both initial offers are out there, both sides say it's time to get serious. governors from six states are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a co
, americans really want to compromise here and they want finally a plan and to resolve this fiscal cliff. will republicans now counter with their own version of a plan, and -- and if you could share some details of what that potentially would look like? >> i think one of the problems with washington in general is these things are taking place behind closed doors. that didn't work out a year and a half ago when they put together a bad deal. both sides, the president, majority leader, the speaker, that created this crisis, but the point was that they wanted to borrow another $2.3 trillion. they promised they cut spending and here we are at the end of the year, we haven't cut any spending since august and now we want to borrow more money and raise taxes. again, two years ago, president obama signed and extended what i call the bush obama tax cuts. i think we need to do that, for some certainty to the economy and talk about looking at some real spending cuts, as well. >> some are criticizing this and calling it a very aggressive plan that the president has pushed forth. in public comments li
be to resolve the fiscal cliff position, and then see the american economy, you know, what a fantastic natural advantage is in this huge game change you've got in energy policy to see that economy really take its proper place again. and if that happens, i think that will also, by the way, have an impact on say the eurozone, which is still very, very fragile. >> all the ifs in there. you have written an article, a special to cnn called be bold to escape the economic crisis. that's the headline there. what is the lesson? i mean i think often the big superpowers don't necessarily look to africa, for example, for good lessons on how to strategize. many of those countries, those emerging economies are doing, are growing, at a rate faster than the united states, and favser than many others. >> yes, they're moving ahead very fast as economies. but i think for us efficiently, if you take europe they've got to take some really big decisions now, and as it were, sort out the short-term issues to do with the single currency crisis, and then make the long-term reforms that we're all going to have to make.
, brian. coach, dsw and american eagle a dividend payment ahead of the fiscal cliff. oracle said it was moving up three of its 2013 quarterly payments to this year. that's a nice payday for the ceo larry ellison who will take home about $199 million. the marketplace editor for "the wall street journal," alsos a new father. >> oh, thanks, carl. >> you look way too rested. >> i know. i hope my boy is not watching me, that he's asleep and being a good boy. >> let's talk some dividends -- congratulations. i'm so happy for you. let's talk some dividends. is this for the good of all shareholders or purely a personal decision? >> well, i have to say smoke them if you've got them. right now the market is saying give us our dividends. if you go to the website you'll see a list of dividends and the percentage of insider holdings for those companies that have produced those you see some companies you mention ed where there's not a lot of insider interest. of course there are companies like oracle. larry ellison owns about a quarter that have company where there is substantial personal divid
like spoiled children in the fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like responsible adults. tonight, signs that maybe some adult behavior might be prevail. and a compromise might be reached. joining me now, dana bash, jessica yellin, and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal. but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter. and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates.
about the fiscal cliff and some of the issues surrounding that. we are going to look at a specific issue of so-called tax extenders a little bit later with sam goldfarb. he will also be talking about tax issues in general when it comes to the fiscal cliff. if you have questions about tax issues or comments about how taxes should be included in these discussions, he will be taking your calls. up next, we're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new y
prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember, it's only 2%. all those americans, too, get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. so, in some sense it's a tax cut for all americans. >> reporter: bottom line, anderson, we're talking today but we're still at stalemate. >> yeah, i mean, it's a sign, jessica and dana, of just how lack -- how little progress there's been that a phone call is big news between these two. dana, we're also hearing hints of some move between republicans, coburn, olympia snowe, susan collins. what are you hearing? how significant is it? >> reporter: it's significant for a couple reasons. one is, you're right. three republicans in different ways suggested they would be okay with what most republicans are saying, that they're not okay with, which is raising tax rates for the wealthiest. tom coburn is the most significant because he's the most conservative in general, not just fiscally, the fact he broke with his party. the othe
the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect in an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all those americans get a tax cut under the framework under the first $250,000 of their income. in some sense, it's a tax cut for all americans. it's just for people who make more than that, we're going to ask them to pay a modestly amount more. >> that's hard to understand given how much going over the fiscal cliff would hurt the economy. why is going over the fiscal cliff worth it for just this one component? if you can get the other components, why wouldn't you take that? >> good question. thanks for asking. what we're trying to do is put in place a comprehensive balance set of fiscal reforms that put us back on the path to living within our means and create room for investing to make the economy stronger, make sure we're protecting medicare for future generations, and forcing the government to use the taxpayers' resources more wisely. in that context, you have to have a significant amount of revenues. we don't see a way of doing
avoid the fiscal cliff. as if that was not bad enough, according to a recent gallup poll, only 18% of americans say they approve of the job that lawmakers are doing on capitol hill. and does the republican party's hope for 2016 lie deep in the heart of texas? that's the buzz about state senator-elect ted cruz, who says the gop needs to be more articulate in its message and rebrand itself under a banner he calls, quote, and remember these words. you'll hear them again, "opportunity conservatism." opportunity conservatism. even though his second inauguration is weeks away, president obama is prepping for another campaign. this one to raise money to build his official library. presidential libraries are a chance for every leader of the free world to shape his or her legacy. while it's an honorable project, it takes years of planning and a whole lot of money to do it. >>> well, could the end be near? new indications the administration sees the end of the war on terror. what does that mean for detainees at guantanamo bay? we'll have that next. is a unive. but when i was in an accident.
. >>> welcome back. what has the fiscal cliff done to america's attitude about investing? steve liesman is here with the results of our all-american economic survey. >> thanks very much. our cnbc all-american economics survey for december looking at people's attitudes toward the stock market and debt. first, let's look at equity. what we find is the stock market in the minds of americans mired in the mud. is this a good time or bad time to invest? when it comes to the average, we're right at the average for the negativity on the market. how about when it comes to good time to invest? relative to the average, a little bit less optimism than normal. we've been doing this for about five years. how about uncertainty in the market? pretty high.uncertainty pretty . optimism low. pessimism about where it normally is. we want to bear in on the financial league. just a slightly different look. we'll look at the average versus right now. when it comes to a bad time or a good time, 55% on average say it's a good time. 34%, bad time. how about the last quarter? september, a little bit less optimism. how ab
, then they're going to risk the whole economy in going over the fiscal cliff. i don't think that's sustainable. i don't think people fully understand, what the president is saying is 100% of american families and small businesses get continued tax relief on their first $250,000 in income, and on the income above that amount, higher income people would be paying the same rates they did during the clinton administration, which is four more cents on the dollar. and, again, i don't think that's at all unreasonable. the president talked about this at length during the presidential campaign, and i believe -- i think people like tom cole, a conservative republican in oklahoma had it right when he warned his colleagues they would look totally obstructionist if they allowed that to happen. >> congressman, also included in the president's plan was that $200 billion in new stimulus measures. mention the word stimulus to republicans, and, well, they're not too happy with that word. so why do that? why deliberately like -- it seems like it was a deliberate poke in the side. >> no, carol. this
of this republican majority is to solve the fiscal cliff once and for all and put us on a path to grow the economy. >> we are 34 days away from what would be the largest tax increase in american history, and the speaker boehner and the republicans have put forward a balanced plan that would prevent that from happening and not devastate our economy at a time when our economy continues to struggle and people are having a tough time finding work. we need to take action that will insure that small-business owners all across this country continue to be able to survive. many have said that the president's approach in raising taxes would act to devastate the economy. ernst and young estimated jobs lost -- a plan that would cut nearly 1 million jobs is a nonstarter. we are working to find a better way. a common-sense way. we can raise tax revenue by simplifying the tax code, not increasing tax rates. we can address wasteful government spending that jeopardize an hour commitments in the national defense and protecting our most honorable. we can jump-start our economy by assuring americans that congress and
the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the suit, dancing gangnam style with former senator allen simpson. >> i'm keeping up on this baby. >> reporter: his group, the cankicksba
off the fiscal cliff and the congress is blaming for inaction. >> it's unacceptable to hold the middle tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let the tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> the republicans call this a bait and switch. >> alisyn: we'll debate. >> dave: one massachusetts town rolling out the welcome mat to long islanders for christmas tree lighting after the they refused to budge on the holiday event. the p.c. please. >> should you tip your garbage collector or how about your child's teacher? we have tips for tipping or the barista at starbucks. >> dave: no! sorry, ladies and gentlemen. >> "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> are you supposed to tip the teacher. >> dave: some are, some are not. >> you want to err on the side of tipping and is it too much. do you tip the garbage man or the postal employee. you leave a bunt cake outside. >> alisyn: yes, money. they want money. >> dave: we'll get into it later, but it's tough because it used to be you tip someone for extraordinary service. >> alisyn: right. >> dave: now you just tip someone please. >> a
up on the wealthiest americans, there will be no deal to avert going over the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: house republicans are adamant, no tax rate increases. >> we're willing to put revenues on the table. revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> reporter: but what the republicans are offering sounds a lot like what the president wanted during last year's budget showdown. >> give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions. >> reporter: today, however, the president says those moves will not be enough. and the latest pew poll shows a lot of public pessimism. with 49% of the public saying they do not expect a deal to be struck by the deadline. 40%, a little more optimistic. george? >> sure looks like this will go right to the deadline. jake, thanks very much. >>> george, now, we're going to get
's not a good idea to go over the fiscal cliff. no one wants to see that happen. it is a bad idea. but a worse idea is to accept a compromise that allows the wealthy americans to continue to not pay their fair share because the result of that will be middle class families will bear the entire burden of the challenges that this country faces. that's not fair or responsible. >> how do we do it? how does this country manage to get a decently fair deal in time to beat this cliff, avoid it? >> tom cole said it all. take what the president has offered right now. make sure that 98% of the people aren't affected by any tax increases. that's how we get it started. and patty is absolutely right. we have all these problems facing us and this is the way to do it. a bad deal would be saying to the millionaires and billionaires, you're going to get a big tax break. that's what the elections was about. we held an election. it isn't as if this was a sidebar issue, chris. this was a main issue. >> i know. >> so, we can fix this. we can stop the sequester right now. we can make sure that 98% of the people don't
they do. that's political environment. they might as well embrace the fiscal cliff. >> you heard peter difazio saying earlier in the program, democrat, go off the cliff, there is no cliff. no problem. >> folks on both sides. look, there's not a clip there and they're going to play chicken and go off. >> and then you're road kill at the bottom. >> that's exactly right. most folks are saying since the economy's improving, congress, don't screw it up and you get some folks on the far left and far right, there's no cliff, don't worry about this. we're after the election, this isn't an id logical debating society. this is about getting something done. let's work on a short-term deal. >> the deal that's there, we're in this situation because congress came up with what they're calling the fiscal cliff now and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony in this that the demo
to do in the short term is avoid the fiscal cliff. the major decisions with regard to tax reform, social insurance programs, et cetera, can't and shouldn't be made until next year, after the american people are engaged and the committees do their work. >> david gergen, how do you get the political solution that opens the door to the policy conversations? >> well, i was encouraged that the republicans actually came forward with something today. a lot of people thought they would not. the president as you know, his team rejected it late this afternoon, but nonetheless, if people truly want to find a bridge to avoid the fiscal cliff, a way to get to the big issues as david walker says would have to come next year, i think they're the makings of it here. each side will have to compromise some more. each side will have to eat a little crow but i think it's imperative that the president take the view that what he's looking for is a win-win. if they take a win-win approach, i think they can get a deal. >> comment on that point. if two wrongs don't make a right but the two nonstarters maybe make
not be sitting around twiddling our thumbs. the clock is running. we face a fiscal cliff. there are some in this chamber who have said, oh, we need to go off of it. we'll go off of it. we'll pay the price and then we'll finally sit down and do what's right. i would, with all due respect, say that's pretty stupid. >> that was some blunt talk from my next guest, republican senator from georgia, johnny isaacson. that was two and a half weeks ago. the more things change, the more they stay the same. both the president and house republicans have offered their own solutions to the fiscal cliff. but we're no closer to a deal. joining me now is senator isa isaacson. good morning, senator isaacson. i assume you stand by what you said just two weeks ago. so let me ask you this. the initial offer by speaker boehner, is it fair to say -- is it fair that the white house is calling it an unserious offer since it doesn't do anything on tax rates? >> no, i dent think so at all. i think it's more reflective of a simpson-bowles. it's a first step. i made a living selling houses for 33 years. i don't get p
and what we need down the line. man this is tough. >> it is. please don't make me say "fiscal cliff" again. the two words. all i talk about. >> eric: we had predictions that they will come to a deal. it's political jockeying now. >> that is what we are hoping for. >> eric: that is what all americans want. >> jamie: three words. fasten your seat belt. new report that the aging infrastructure may have played a role in freight train derailment in new jersey. truly tragic. seven cars jumping the tracks while the train was crossing a bridge. the problem is it was carrying hazardous chemicals in the air. live in the new york news room. i know there were evacuations. did the folks get go back home? >> the national transportation safety board saying the conductor with con-raid since 2008. worked the accident route previously but this was his first week back on it. the ntsb pointed to a faulty traffic signal for causing friday bridge collapse. train derailment and the toxic chemical release that caused the health problem for residents in pollsborough, new jersey. >> they are going to work the point
analysis, a, most americans don't understand what the fiscal cliff is or the impact that it could bring or do you think it's because they believe that ultimately we will get a deal by december 31st? >> well, as you say, it's a bit of a mystery why confidence is so high. it may have something to do with the housing market and house prices being up around most of the country. that probably does help confidence some. i expect as you point out that most people probably don't have on their radar how large a tax hit we could have early next year if the fiscal cliff actually materializes. so it is a mystery. it does seem like right now consumers aren't too worried about the fiscal cliff. >> at what point do you get concerned? it sounds like perhaps a risk of revisions to q-4 estimates to the downside at this point because as the negotiations grind on and we approach year end, it might reach more of the forefront of consumers' mind and they may pull back. are you concerned about that impact? >> i am. right now we only have october data in hand. and fiscal cliff fears really accelerated in novem
the state of kentucky. senator paul, welcome, as always. i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff, the state of play. there's revenues on the table. there's tax rate increases on the table. i don't know if there's spending on the table. what's your thinking prigt now? >> that it's a really, really bad idea to raise taxes. if you want your economy to grow, you should do the opposite. we have to cut taxes. that's how i'd fix the economy. leave more money in the private sector. the president is adamant about raising taxes and he's dead wrong. >> there are some people saying we need a deal to avoid a huge tax increase but year end that would throw us into recession. just a thought, would you compromise in terms of let's say a smaller tax rate increase -- let's say the top rate goes to 37% instead of 40%, maybe the threshold goads es to $500,000 $750,000 rather than $250,000? does that interest you? >> no. but what about means testing for entitlement. why don't we say the rich get less social security and they pay more for their medicare? it meets the president's animus that we must get more mone
for everything he has done. [laughter] and now we can talk about the fiscal cliff. let me start off just by -- we will do the house rules, except we will cut in half. 30 seconds -- then we will have time to elaborate on all this. i want to go through the panel. what do think the odds are that some kind of the deal will be cut by january 1 in order to avoid sequestration and all the tax hikes? mark, i will start with you. >> i think it is 80% that we will avoid sequestration. the question is, though, is this going to be a big enough deal, and will actually be enough of a down payment that it will lead to something else subsequently that will actually avoid the kind of enormous consequences of $16 trillion of debt? that percentage will be lower than the 80%. >> let's come back to the big picture -- in the short term, by january 1 -- will we avoid the cliff? >> i think it is likely that we avoid it. it does not appear that that is going so well. it is so easy for us just to do the things we need to do. i think the real line in the sand is going to be the debt ceiling. i really do think -- i have sai
: and president obama flatly turning down a republican counteroffer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. so now what? house majority whip kevin mccarthy joins us next. >> he wants to break the back of republicans. this is a continuation of his campaign. he thinks he won it, and now he wants to drive a stake through the republicans. it's all about politics, it's nothing about economickings. dre. one is for a clean, domestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow bill: we have new video released by police here in new york city of the moments before a man was pushed off a times square subway
is quite frankly a joke. >> as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, is there a way to avoid falling over it? joining me live from los angeles, democratic congresswoman maxine waters. congresswoman, always a pleasure to see you. >> hello, how are you? >> tim geithner saying today the administration would deal with social security at a later date. are democrats serious about entitlement reform? >> no, democrats are not furious, except we understand and will insist that social security and medicare not be on the table at all. the president has presented a credible proposal on both taxes and spending, and he did offer up $400 billion in discretionary spending cuts. so, in addition to the $1.6 trillion that we're insisting on in eliminating or allowing the tax cuts for the richest people in this country to sunset, we are offering up tax cuts also. >> you just said social security and medicare off the table. >> that's right. >> for democrats. >> that's right. that's what i think. that's what progressives think. >> most folks, not discounting -- not discounting the progressive wing
, rope-a-dope. where does that leave us after months of hearing about the fiscal cliff, no signs of a compromise plan yet. chief white house correspondent jessica yellin here now. jessica, what happened to all this, hey, willing to work together, let's compromise, let's do what the american people want, we got a couple of days here before we go on vacation? what happened? >> reporter: i don't know. maybe it is always darkest before the dawn? that's the most optimistic way to look at it, i guess. look, the white house would look at it this way or democrats at least, they have been frustrated that they argue that republicans have not come to the table with specifics on how they would raise taxes. the president as you know campaigned on this pledge to raise taxes on the upper income, and they want to hear what republicans are willing to do on that. so they said since the republicans weren't given specifics, okay, the white house went up there, and delivered an opening position, was not written down on paper, not sort of a formal offer, here's what we want, it was a starting position
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